Comment on March 5th, 2008.
Thanks for sharing these photos. The second one is especially fun. I like the expression on your daughter’s face, and the way she is holding out her hands.
I was wondering, did you crop any of these photos? From what I can see, there is no odd distortion/softness at the edges, even at f/2.8. This was a big problem with my Nikon 12-24 mm. Are you pleased with the image quality of this lens? Have you used any of the other lenses in this category (say, the Nikon 12-24 mm or the Sigma 10-20 mm)? Thanks very much. Have a great day!
JP Denk
Comment on March 5th, 2008.
Hi JP Denk,
Thanks for the comments.
All the photos above are uncropped version. They are all original from Nikon D200, just resized for web purpose.
I do have some test shots on a wall with posters. I shall post them out later today.
I have not tried the Nikon 12-24mm nor Sigma 10-20mm, so I can’t comment on the comparison.
Personally, I must say that I was surprised and shocked by the sharpness of the Tokina AT-X 116 lens! I took some shots of my wife, I can count the hair of her eyebrows! Sorry, can’t post that photo though as she will kill me for posting her funny look with such a wide angle lens.
I shall update with some full resolution original files later. ![]()
Comment on March 5th, 2008.
Hello Again, KhoKing:
Thank you for your return comments. It seems the Tokina 11-16 lens is very sharp. I am pleased to know there is no cropping in your photos. Usually, with my Nikon 12-24, I would have to crop quite a bit from the edges. This area almost always was far too “soft” to use. I will be interested to see any other photos you are able to post. (And I understand about not posting the photo of your wife. My wife also is not eager for her photo to be shown to the world!
Thank you for your early review of this lens. So far, it is the only useful performance information I have been able to find.
Hope you have a fine day.
JP Denk
Comment on March 6th, 2008.
Hi Terry and JP Denk,
Thanks for revisiting my blog.
I have updated the short review with more photos and some physical comparison with the Tokina AT-X 124 PRO lens.
Hope you guys enjoy reading. ![]()
Comment on March 6th, 2008.
Thanks again, KhoKing! I appreciate you taking time to share these files and your impressions of the lens. Your input has been extremely helpful. Even pushed at f/2.8 and 11mm settings, this seems to be a very impressive lens. I’m leaning toward purchasing it. Hopefully, it will become available in the US soon. If not, I may purchase it via the Shashinki site. Thanks again for your help. Best wishes to you and your family. And happy photography!
Comment on March 6th, 2008.
I’m thinking of getting myself one. I was almost going to buy the tokina 12-24mm last week when suddenly this lens was available at kakaku.com. The difference is about 10.000 yens, but if it’s a much better lens, I’m going to save some cash for the 11-16. Thanks for the short review Koh!
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Comment on March 13th, 2008.
Thank you very much for you review and sample pic.
Could you post some outdoor pic sample.
Comment on March 14th, 2008.
Hi lkunl,
I shall get some outdoor shots and some more distortion test samples soon… ![]()
Comment on March 14th, 2008.
I’m looking too for an Ultra Wide Lens
Just to know… how bad is the vignetting on a film camera?
Comment on March 14th, 2008.
Hi ene,
Sorry, I have not tried this lens on film camera. As this lens is meant for DSLR with 1.5X or 1.6X cropped sensor, so you will definitely get pretty bag vignetting or round dark corner for full frame or film SLR.
Thanks.
Comment on March 14th, 2008.
I know that the 12-24 can be used from 16-17mm on 35mm with acceptable vignetting… i was hoping to gain a 16 f2.8 for my f100
maybe it’s too much…
Comment on March 15th, 2008.
KKK, get D3 from your own stocks for testing… ![]()
Comment on March 15th, 2008.
BK, my wife asked me to get your phone number…she wants to discuss something with you “seriously”…
Nah…with a baby commitment now, I have to use my money wisely…no more luxury… ![]()
Comment on March 15th, 2008.
KhoKing
one more question.
How about color saturation of 11-16 compare to 12-24 Tokina.
I use 12-24 tokina and I think 12-24 tokina is less color saturate compare to Nikon lens.
Thank you very much
lkunl
Comment on March 16th, 2008.
Hi lkunl,
I did not do test comparison of the two lenses, so can’t really comment on that.
Color saturation is very much depends on your DSLR, and it can be easily punched in during computer editing.
Do that note that I did not dial in extra sharpness in my Nikon D200, as I prefer to do it in computer post processing later. In my mug shot above, I can easily unsharp mask and get very sharp final image. So, don’t blame the lens for unsharp images, but do appreciate the details it delivers.
I have just uploaded another TWO distortion test images at 11mm and 16mm. ![]()
Comment on March 16th, 2008.
Distortion also very good controlled like Tokina 12-24.
Thank you for new image sample.
Comment on March 17th, 2008.
For those who are interested in seeing a defective Tokina AT-X 116 PRO lens with bad coating:
http://shashinki.com/blog/2008/03/16/a-defective-tokina-at-x-116-pro-11-16mm-lens/
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Comment on March 18th, 2008.
Here is an interesting link in Japanese giving more examples. Scroll down below the Japanese text for test images.
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/lens_review/2008/03/03/8016.html
Comment on March 22nd, 2008.
Hi there,
I think a lot of people are wondering about how this lens handles flare, since this focal length will be used outdoors a lot. I guess the simplest way to check is just to go outdoors and have the sun just out of frame or in the very corners…
Anyways, thanks for posting what you’ve already gotten up!
Comment on March 22nd, 2008.
Also, how are chromatic abberations? These are less of a problem for me but I know others have been wanting to see how this lens performs in terms of that.
Comment on March 30th, 2008.
I have just bought from ebay japan store. First impressions : after using canon 10-22 and sigma 10-20 : this lens is different . manuel focus–automatic focus ring is very fine (this is first time for tokina :))
and lens is so silent
lens focus is very good
lens body is very good
sharpness is not bad
I am not pro so I dont know how to revew a lens ::)
Comment on March 30th, 2008.
hi Khoking.
excellent review. I wonder if Normal thickness B+W CPL filter will cause vignetting ? Possible to test on your side ?
Comment on April 1st, 2008.
kk, whats the price of the ATX 116 PRO,do you have the stock ? Good review!
Comment on April 1st, 2008.
Hi Subra,
Thanks for the compliments.
You can order the lens at:
http://shashinki.com/shop/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=tokina+at-x+116&x=0&y=0
Comment on April 5th, 2008.
Ken Rockwell also did a glowing review of this lens (www.kenrockwell.com/tokina/11-16mm.htm). If it perfoms as well as it appears, I suspect Tokina will have a backorder situation once it hits the U.S
Comment on April 19th, 2008.
Excellent review. Helped me make my decision regarding the lens
Comment on April 27th, 2008.
Thank your sharing.Can your compare canon 10-22 and tokina 11-16 which one better,this two lens price close.
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Comment on May 11th, 2008.
Thank you VERY MUCH for the flare/ghosting check.
I really appreciate that, and I have ordered the lens at E-Bay - it is the only place to get it for the time being, I will not wait untill it arrives in Denmark in a month or so.
Comment on May 29th, 2008.
Thanks for the review KK. After reading yours and Ken Rockwell’s reviews I almost succumbed to the temptation today while watching a customer at a shop took one out to play with. I’m sure the lens is shaprer than anything in this range but I’m still tossed about whether I’d want to lose the practicality of having 4mm more on the long end of my Sigma 10-20 which has so far, served me very well. Thus far, the arguments for giving up on my 10-20 are — (i) f2.8 makes indoor shots so much easier to handle compared to the very slow f4-5.6 (ii) much better sharpness on the edge compared to the 10-20 according to the reviews (iii) it looks like a smaller and lighter lens compared to the Sigma. In the “against” camp - (i) 11-16 range is in all practicality, a fixed focus lens (ii) CA appear to be a problem (iii) lose 1mm on the wide end which is not a big deal (iv) a lighter wallet (though in HK here, it costs only HK$3,800 (apr. US$500) which is substantially cheaper than the EUR600 asking that I saw posted elsewhere)
Comment on June 2nd, 2008.
Michael, where in Hong Kong can you find this lens for $3,800 - very few dealers have it and the cheapest qupoted so far is $4,300…? Thanks
Comment on June 3rd, 2008.
hi! i’m just wondering how is the customer support for tokina here in KL. I was informed that each time there is a problem for this lens, they have to all the way send the lens to singapore for repair which is I think would take time and hassle to the customer. I hope you can make this known to us because this is the only reason why i don’t buy tokina lenses
Comment on June 3rd, 2008.
The distributor of Tokina lenses is a Singapore company, they are controlling the Malaysia market, that is why lenses have to be sent to Singapore when warranty is needed.
My stock is not from Singapore though, but directly from Japan. I checked and tested every lenses before sending to my customers, trying to minimize the chance of customer getting a bad copy.
Comment on June 24th, 2008.
Just bought and returned my Tokina 11-16mm f2.8. Worked fine for a day and then the zoom range wouldnt go past 12-15mm. Odd. Later the focus range also wouldnt commit the full range(only about a third). Both problems were intermitent but persistent. Its gone back.
Comment on July 1st, 2008.
Hi,Kho King! I have a question regarding lens distortion.(Tokina AT-X 116 PRO DX 11-16mm F2.8)So, as we can see onexemple with metal curtains there is really not much distortion here.But on another exemples with outdoor shoots ,buildings seems to be badly falling inwards.Looks like distortion?Where I am wrong?
And sorry for my english-still can’t learn it properly.
Thank You.
Comment on July 1st, 2008.
Donatas the kind of distortions that you can see at the buildings are very well controled with ps and i dont think that is a problem ,at least we are talking for a 11mm lens !!!Sometimes that kind of distortions giving us a very preety effect…
Comment on July 2nd, 2008.
After shooting couple of hours love-hate-relationship begins…
Maybe it is that lens or my Canon D40 but photos seems to be quite soft.
Seems also that my Canon with that lens cannot meter light correct…
Basic skylight / hard contrast makes photos absolutely too dark, sky is burned white, odd colors…
am I missing something? Should I really use only manual settings? or convert to black & white
Some snapshots on a rainy day http://rockdata.org/tokina/
-Latvis
Comment on July 3rd, 2008.
A lot of this baby is available in Hong Kong now.
Comment on July 8th, 2008.
hi KKK,need ur opinion,is it worth to ” upgrade ” to tokina 11-16 if i oledi got the Canon 10-22mm? The 2.8 and sharpness is very tempting ![]()
Comment on July 9th, 2008.
I do not own it yet but itching to get one. My question is — will this auto-focus on my Nikon D80? I would appreciate an answer from anybody.
Comment on July 9th, 2008.
Hi Mic,
IMO, since you already have the Canon 10-22mm, there is no point to get the Tokina lens just for the F2.8 aperture. For wide angle shots, DOF is normally very deep, and if you are shooting landscape, most of the time you will want to stop down as well.
Comment on July 9th, 2008.
KK,
Do u still have stock for this tokina lens now? Im going to Borobudur Jogyakarta on July 18 and I’m thinking of buying this lens. Will this lens be able to deliver within this week?
Comment on July 9th, 2008.
Dear Johann,
Sorry, I sold out the Nikon mount version. New stock will only be available in 2 weeks time.
Comment on July 19th, 2008.
Thanks alot for the review and (mail). I am pretty much set now!
pics really look great! fine by me! ![]()
thanks,
Comment on August 6th, 2008.
Is it worth getting the tokina 11-16mm with the f2.8 over the sigma 10-20mm considering the sigma has been giving great reviews and is slightly cheaper to buy?
Comment on August 6th, 2008.
Hi Dibsy,
I think you need to take note that Tokina ATX116 is for digital cropped sensor, while Sigma 10-20mm is a truly fully frame lens. So it depends on your DSLR used.
Tokina has great built quality and great image quality. While for the Sigma, I am not really sure of the image quality, built is fine though not as good as the Tokina.
Comment on August 6th, 2008.
thanks khoking ,i,,m using the nikon d80 so the tokina was made for this body. just worried abit because there has been some negative posts about the tokina saying that even with the f2.8 the images are soft at the higher f stop.
images are ok from say f8 -f12.Now knowing the sigma is a full frame lens and the rumour is it will take my megapixels down to 5 megapixels i will be buying the tokina for sure.
thank you very much for your time KHOKING.
Comment on August 14th, 2008.
hi thanks for the write-up. i’m considering buying a wide angle lens, and this one apparently can be the best choice! Thanks again
Comment on August 16th, 2008.
Thank you for this review. Really good work. Probably I will adquire the lens.
Comment on August 29th, 2008.
Thanks for the review KhoKing. Very Positive. Having been a Nikon professional shooter exclusively for the past 35 years, for the very first time I’m seriously considering this lens after yours and Ken Rockwell’s reviews. I like the cost and the weight factors as well as the image quality. I’m sick of lugging these bigger and weightier “wide” lenses around, photography starts to become a bit of a chore. Are Tokina lenses, in general , the better of the non camera manufactures lenses of Nikon and Canon. Can you recomend any long distance zoom lenses from these third party lens manufacturers. I shoot Nikon D2Xs. Many thanks again
Comment on August 29th, 2008.
Hi Mik,
Thank you for dropping by! Glad that you found my “review” useful.
The three main third party lens makers are Tokina, Tamron and Sigma. There is no which one is best. It depends on the lens. For example, my opinion is that Tokina makes the best wide angle lens, while Sigma is better in 70-200mm and telephoto range. Tamron is for its lowest price range among them, and is more popular in 17-70mm range (SP 17-50mm and SP 28-70mm).
For telephoto lens, non third party makers have IS/VR in them, so I would recommend you get the original Nikon/Canon 70-200mm range, as IS/VR is very useful in such long focal length.
Sigma does have OS in some of their long range lenses, but still not that popular and not in 70-200mm F2.8 series.
Hope this helps.
Comment on August 30th, 2008.
Hi,
After reading your review and comments here I bought this lens here in USA. Got it today! I think that it is nice build. Took some photo with it with D300 and love what I see. I think it will supplement nicely my 18-200 Nikkor.
Tomorrow I will go to shoot some more photos of Cincinnati from KY side of the Ohio river. I will try to post them on flickr.
Comment on September 17th, 2008.
Very great and useful review khoking.it helps me a lot to choose between 11-16 or 12-24 TOKINA.the only problem is that this lens is for DX only
.Guess i have to wait another time before jumping to FX cameras no lol.
Please do post more pics since i really need something to truly convince myself before getting this lens.
Regards from Indonesia
Comment on September 18th, 2008.
Hi Ferry
Another review of this lens by Ken Rockwell reckons you can use this lens on a FX camera. Yes there is vignetting at 11mm but OK at 15mm. You can crop out the vignetting at 11mm if you wish, Food for thought.
Regards
Mik
Comment on September 30th, 2008.
How does it compare to the Canon EF-S 10-22mm. I read the Ken’s web and he suggest the Ef-S instead of the Tokina!
Comment on October 4th, 2008.
I really want this lens for my Canon XTi.
Crap. Where can I get one? Out of stock in most places, and I’m planning to go for a trip to Japan quite soon, so this lens would be so nice for all those sceneries. Crap.
Comment on October 5th, 2008.
Buy it in Japan!
Comment on October 5th, 2008.
Yea, I’m thinking about that option. Only problem is, I really really want to have the lens there, so what if it’s sold out there? That’s why it would be more safe to get it before the trip. I guess it’s about 55k yen in Akihabara?
Comment on October 5th, 2008.
It’s a huge possibility that it won’t be sold out in Japan, after all it’s made there. I think it would be sold out first anywhere else, but in Japan it would be available.
Comment on October 5th, 2008.
You should be able to get the lens in big camera shop in Tokyo, but price is not going to be the cheapest.
Comment on October 22nd, 2008.
Just received mine yesterday! What a beautiful lens. I highly recommend this one to anyone interested in wide angle photography!!!!
Comment on October 31st, 2008.
Had some time to play with my new lens. everything is great! sharpest at F5.6, noting much to complain about…
Pros: Sharp as ever, especially at 5.6, 2.8 for low light conditions, build is great, cheaper than the canon 10-22, faster than the sigma 10-20, cool manual focusing clutch.
Cons: Doesn’t focus as close as the Canon 10-22, doesn’t focus as fast or as quiet as a real USM lens, petal hood wobbles when placed backwards to store on lens, short focal length (not a bad thing…), and honestly, im really trying to find things wrong with this lens.
I’ve used almost all ultra wides available for crop sensor cameras for Canon, sigma, canon and now Tokina, minus the tamron. i must say, the Tokina win’s hands down as you all might have read from all the reviews on the net. As my previous post states, this is a beautiful lens, highly recommended!!!
Stu
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